Did you ever think Taylor Swift could steal the spotlight from Donald Trump, and in such a spectacular way? This week, Swift didn’t just join her boyfriend Travis Kelce on his New Heights podcast. She strolled in, dropped a bombshell announcement for her upcoming album The Life of a Showgirl, and casually outdid Trump’s record on a different podcast — all while chatting about sourdough bread and songwriting!

In the first hour of her episode, a staggering 1.3 million viewers tuned in live on YouTube, leaving Trump’s appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast, which peaked at only 800,000 viewers, in the dust. Remember when Trump’s team promoted that number as a testament to his invincible momentum? Well, Swift not only matched it but nearly doubled it with her effortless charm and relatable conversation.

For many fans, there was an immediate sense of schadenfreude. “To be honest, that was like half the reason I tuned in,” one Reddit user confessed, and another chimed in, “Same, I spite-watched it on YouTube for this very purpose.” Swift’s triumph felt like a delicious slice of karma. One fan bluntly stated: “Not a Swiftie by any means but I love this for her. Any opportunity I can see anyone beat Trump in anything is a win for me😍.”

It’s worth noting that Trump is notorious for his aversion to losing. Watching Swift claim one of his recent bragging rights was nothing short of poetic justice. As one commenter astutely observed, “Ah yes, a generally male (and sports-centric) podcast where they regularly praise their partners and the women in their lives versus Joe Rogan.” Another commenter pointed out the real takeaway: “The point isn’t that the Kelce bros podcast is better than Rogan’s… it’s that Taylor Swift is more popular than Trump, which will absolutely irritate him.”

However, just as it seemed like Swift was delivering a clear-cut message of defiance, the situation took a twist. According to Patrick Mahomes, the first call Swift made after recording wasn’t to him or even to Travis — it was to Brittany Mahomes. Brittany, who received a glowing thank-you from Trump on Truth Social after liking one of his posts, has been a somewhat awkward presence in Swift’s circle ever since. While the two women maintain a close public relationship, the optics of Swift snatching a record from Trump and then FaceTiming one of his staunch supporters raised eyebrows among fans.

Swift has never shied away from making her political stance known — she endorsed Kamala Harris last fall, and insiders suggest that The Life of a Showgirl might even take a direct swing at Trump. Still, she appears to relish the layered symbolism behind moments like this. As one Redditor humorously noted, “lol I love how this is bringing her non-fans and fans together for a common cause.” For Swifties, that cause is crystal clear: watching her snatch a victory from someone who hates to lose.

Before you go, don’t miss all the cutest PDA moments between Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce!