Just when you thought the celebrity gossip game couldn’t get any wilder, Taylor Swift made headlines by not just appearing on her boyfriend Travis Kelce’s podcast, but by completely dominating the scene. In a shocking twist, she announced her new album, The Life of a Showgirl, while simultaneously snatching a record from none other than Donald Trump. In less than an hour, her episode raked in an astonishing 1.3 million live viewers on YouTube—smashing Trump’s record of 800,000 viewers from his podcast with Joe Rogan. That’s right, Swift nearly doubled his viewership, and she did it while casually chatting about sourdough bread and her songwriting process.

For Swift's fans, the moment was a delicious dose of schadenfreude. “tbh that was like half the reason I tuned in,” one Reddit user confessed, revealing a sentiment that was echoed by many others. “Same, I spite watched it on YouTube for this very purpose,” another added, emphasizing the thrill of watching Swift surpass Trump in the ratings game.

One comment put it perfectly: “Straight Karma.” Others expressed their delight at seeing Swift beat Trump in anything, with one quipping, “Not a swiftie by any means but I love this for her. Any opportunity I can see anyone beat Trump in anything, is a win for me😍.” The irony wasn’t lost on viewers; here’s a man who hates losing, watching Swift take away one of his bragging rights. The contrast between a male-dominated sports podcast and the sheer star power of Swift was stark. As one observer pointed out, “Ah yes, a generally male (and sports-centric) podcast where they regularly praise their partners and women in their lives vs Joe Rogan.”

But the plot thickened. Just when it seemed like Swift was delivering an undeniable middle finger to Trump, the details got a bit murky. According to Patrick Mahomes, the first call Swift made after recording wasn’t to him or even to Travis; it was to Brittany Mahomes. Brittany, who once caught Trump’s attention on Truth Social after liking one of his posts, has had an awkward presence in Swift’s circle ever since. While they appear to be friends on the surface, the optics of Swift snagging a record from Trump and then calling one of his supporters were enough to raise eyebrows.

Swift is no stranger to political statements; she backed Kamala Harris last fall, and insiders are hinting that her new album could take aim at Trump directly. Yet, it seems she enjoys the multilayered symbolism of these moments. One Redditor summed it up perfectly: “lol I love how this is bringing her non-fans and fans together for a common cause.” For the Swifties, that cause is crystal clear: celebrating her victory against a man who detests losing.